Tuesday, September 17, 2013

IF your haning your beliefs on this one THING [speakingin tongues] I would urge Caution. THIS can be ALSO form Satan; the deceiver

working4christ with patrick j miron deception butbob; 10499059] with all the different protestant churches it is difficult to find the ones where people and the pastor are actually filled and led by the Holy Spirit- - that is the game changer- - all thou the Assembly of God church has the doctrinal belief speaking in tongues is the 1st evidence of the Holy Spirit— even in the catholic churxch it is hard to find Q5 . If you are Born of God, [Baptized?] ARE you a Child of God? John 1:12; Rom. 8:16. John 1:12 “But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name” Once again we have a different version of “by Faith Alone. ” A very believable and powerful message when taken out of context. They trend to the first teaching but at times ignore that it is clearly a “conditional offer.” Then even if they accept that its “conditional,” they claim an unwarranted right to define for themselves what the conditions are. Not permitting God to “be in charge”; and therefore they commonly miss the actual teaching God requires. This is a great example of US needing to know what is true; and how to prove it. Rom. 8:16 “For the Spirit himself giveth testimony to our spirit, that we are the sons of God.” Keep in mind the question being asked: cf. “DO YOU have the Spirit of God living in you?” … I’d bet nearly 100%claim that they do? Response: But even if they do, how do they know for sure? My guess is that the answer has something to do with “Speaking in Tongues” which they commonly hold as the “end-all” of all Spiritual Gifts. So are they saying that “if one does not have the Gift of tongues”; the HS is NOT with them? Yes, I think that is often their point; and it’s wrong! That is NOT what Paul actually teaches: 1Cor.12 Verses 26 to 31 ”If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together. Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, then healers, helpers, administrators, speakers in various [LAST Listed] kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? [NO is implied] Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.” AND 1st.Cor. 14: Verses 5, 13 “Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than he who speaks in tongues, unless some one interprets, so that the church may be edified. Therefore, he who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret. ” Speaking in tongues is a good thing; made far better when they or someone else can interpret it “for the benefit of the church.” ( the people) I know only a few catholics who are so Blessed. This stems from the fact that it is not a Gift we ask for from the HS, enough. We certainly do NOT wish to claim that The Holy Spirit is NOT In some manner available to our Protestant brethren . He may well be with them is some manner? BUT not in the fullness that He is within the Catholic Church and our Sacraments, and especially in it’s Informed and fully practicing members. READ: Bob my friend , IF your haning your beliefs on this one THING [speakingin tongues] I would urge Caution. THIS can be ALSO form Satan; the deceiver GOOGLE "Satan and speaking in tongues" READ Jn. 14: 16-17 [filled in John 20;21-22] The Holy Spirit is Promised ONLY by Christ to His Apostles and the CC that through direct Succession [Mk. 16:14-17 & Mt. 28:18-20] with the MISSION now expanded to the Entire WORLD, which makes it an absolute necessity . Further evidence is Found in John 17:15-19 Where Jesus gives HIMSELF personally [and exclusively ] to the same Apostles an todays CC. Keep in mind that the ONLY Church for nearly ONE THOUSAND YEARS AFTER CHRIST RESSURESCTION was and is; todays CC. [And yes I can prove it biblically and historically]. Certainly our Perfect God did not wait for Protrestants to introduce His SINGULAR truth. God Bles you, pat/PJM

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